7-Day Forecast for Scenic Hot Springs Area (2,900 ft near beginning of Trail Head)

Saturday, December 31, 2005

Status of Spring Visits

It's come to my attention that various forums and groups have been posting that Scenic Hot Springs is open to the public. We need to dispel this notion. Scenic Hot Springs IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC!

The scuttlebutt is a result of various postings on the Internet and the continued good graces of the owner. Also, this property is very difficult to prevent access. So let me be blunt . . . if you are seen hiking the property on your way up to the hot springs, you will be challenged. However, to be realistic, this is wilderness and there is little we can do about controlling access other than to post 'No Tresspass' signs to limit the liability to the owner.

Various individuals do have permission to be on this property and that seems to encourage others to ask for permission for themselves as well. The owner of Scenic has rewarded those who assist in various aspects (clean-ups, giving input or collecting data, etc.) by giving them explicit permission to be on this property. This is their reward for their help so please don't ask me for permission cards . . . that dilutes the value of the cards of those who earned them. If you want to earn your own card (and permission to be on the property), have something to contribute toward bringing the dreams of a re-opened Scenic Hot Springs to fruition. Watch this blog for upcoming 'clean-up' parties. There is a lot of mess left over from the 'glory days' of the springs that must be removed that same way it was brought in . . . by hand. There is trail maintenance and litter clean-up activities to correct those less respectful tresspassers. There is a real need for those with geotechnical or topographical surveying expertise. Let us know. If you are helping out, then you get the right to be on the property. Simple as that. Don't ask and then contribute nothing in return.


A Trip Report from a Volunteer - 12-29-2005

Note: Jason, the writer of this trip report, had explicit permission to be on the property, helping to collect the empirical data we need. Scenic Hot Springs still remains 'posted' property.

The springs remain running at good temperatures with the exception of the lower east spring which is an astonishing low 96 degs. Also, the west springs (Bear Den Springs) are the hotter of the two, indicating a spring switch is taking place, probably because of all the rain and snow melt we've been experiencing in the last two weeks. With the new snow falling, the springs should switch back soon.

Though he talks of little snow on the property, that has changed as of today with the snow levels around 2,500 feet . . . from the FS Road on up. I expect there is a lot of snow up there by now. Thank you for your report Jason. Rick


It was an awesome day. I did find a thermometer so we were able to take some temperatures for you. I'm not sure I found all of the spots you were looking for, but I will describe the temperatures that I did get.

  • Hot Pool: 108º
  • Cool Pool: 103º
  • West Spring ( I could only find one of the two that you mentioned): 119º
  • Rock Gully leading to the Pool (2 springs): 96º, 113º
  • Air Temp: It was approx. 34º out (much warmer than I expected, though the snow was pretty soft)
  • Winds: No or very little wind
  • Water Clarity: The hot pool was cleaner than the cool pool. Both pools had a large amount of white algae present. The liner was cleaner in the hot pool with very little algae present. (We scrubbed the liner in the hot pool at the water level where there was a little green algae present) We also were able to start siphoning and got a good chunk of white algae gone.

As for erosion, I didn't really notice any new erosion that I know of...but, there was ALOT of runoff due to the high temperatures. There was a lot less snow than what I expected and we were even walking on rocks some of the time and not snow. I'm not sure what to tell you about new erosion though, as I didn't really pay attention to the erosion the last time I was up.

All in all it was a great hike!